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Getting a lender to budge on underwater home sales - tips?

Trying to help my cousin out with a house that’s worth less than the mortgage, and the bank isn’t exactly jumping at our first offer. Anyone have tricks for getting lenders to actually respond or negotiate? Is it just about persistence, or are there magic words we should be using? Would love to hear what’s worked (or totally flopped) for others.


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gaming829

Honestly, persistence only gets you so far if you’re not backing it up with solid documentation. I’ve seen banks ignore repeated calls until they get a detailed hardship letter and a comparative market analysis. Just saying “the house is underwater” isn’t always enough - they want proof. Sometimes, it’s less about magic words and more about giving them everything upfront so they can’t stall.


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drake_lopez

Sometimes, it’s less about magic words and more about giving them everything upfront so they can’t stall.

Yeah, learned that the hard way. I once tried to shortcut the process - just called and said “hey, comps are way down, help me out?” They basically laughed me off. Next time, I sent a binder with photos, repair estimates, the whole nine yards. Suddenly, I got a call back in two days. Banks love their paperwork... almost as much as their late fees.


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ocean_nate

Honestly, it’s wild how much difference a thick packet of documentation makes. I had a lender stonewall me for weeks on a short sale - emails ignored, calls dodged. Finally, I dropped a 30-page PDF in their lap: inspection reports, before/after photos, even a spreadsheet breaking down every repair cost. Magically, they were “reviewing my file” within 48 hours. I get why they want to cover themselves, but sometimes it feels like they’re just waiting for you to do their job for them. Still, I'd rather over-document than give them an excuse to drag things out.


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andrewbeekeeper

I had a lender stonewall me for weeks on a short sale - emails ignored, calls dodged.

I get where you’re coming from, but sometimes I think flooding them with paperwork can backfire. I’ve had a lender get “lost” in all my docs, then ask for things I’d already sent. Honestly, clarity and a concise summary up front has worked better for me than sheer volume.


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Honestly, I’ve had better luck when I keep things super organized - one PDF, labeled sections, and a bullet-point summary in the email body. Lenders get buried in paperwork all day, so if you make their job easier, you’re more likely to get a response. I’ve even color-coded docs before... might sound over the top, but it’s worked. Sending the same stuff over and over just gives them an excuse to stall.


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Lenders get buried in paperwork all day, so if you make their job easier, you’re more likely to get a response.

Couldn’t agree more - if you want a lender to actually read your stuff, you’ve gotta treat them like a toddler with too many toys. Give them one shiny thing at a time, or they’ll just ignore the whole pile. I once sent a short sale package that looked like it belonged in an art supply store - tabs, highlighters, the works. My agent thought I’d lost it, but we got a call back in two days.

One thing I’d add: don’t be afraid to follow up with a quick phone call after you send everything. Not nagging, just a “Hey, did you get my email?” Sometimes they’ll admit they haven’t even opened it yet. Also, if you can find out the name of the actual person handling your file (not just “loss mitigation department”), it makes a world of difference. People are way less likely to ghost you when you use their name.

Color-coding might sound wild, but honestly? In this game, whatever gets their attention is fair play.


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Honestly, the color-coding thing isn’t as wild as it sounds. I’ve seen files get lost in the shuffle just because they looked like every other stack of paper. One thing I’d add - don’t just send everything at once and hope for the best. Break it down: send the essentials first (hardship letter, HUD, offer), then follow up with supporting docs if they ask. Less is more at the start. Also, don’t trust email alone - fax still gets weirdly fast attention with some lenders. Not saying it always works, but it’s saved me more than once.


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I get the idea behind sending just the basics first, but I’ve actually had better luck dumping everything in one go. Maybe it’s just the lenders I’ve dealt with, but if I only send the essentials, they end up asking for more stuff anyway... and then it drags out for weeks. I started attaching every doc up front - tax returns, pay stubs, the whole nine yards. It’s a pain, but at least they can’t say they’re “waiting on paperwork.” Faxing though? That’s wild to me. I haven’t touched a fax machine since college.


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adventure870

Title: Getting a lender to budge on underwater home sales - tips?

Honestly, I get where you’re coming from. I’ve tried both ways - just the basics and then the “here’s my entire life in PDF form” approach. It’s wild how some lenders still manage to find something missing, even when you think you’ve covered every base. Ever notice how they’ll ask for a document you already sent, too? Makes you wonder if they’re actually reading anything or just stalling.

Faxing is a whole other level of outdated, though. I had one lender insist on it last year and I had to hunt down a FedEx just to send a single page. Felt like I was in a time warp.

I do think you’re onto something with sending everything up front, even if it’s a hassle. At least you can say you did your part and the ball’s in their court. Have you ever had them push back or claim you “overwhelmed” them with docs? I’ve heard that excuse before, but honestly, I’d rather risk that than wait around for weeks.


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Yeah, the fax thing still blows my mind - had to dust off an old machine in the office last month for a lender who “couldn’t accept email.” You’re right about the docs, though. I’ve had underwriters claim too many PDFs made it harder to process, which just feels backwards. Ever tried splitting up your uploads by category instead of one big file? Sometimes that gets fewer complaints, but then you risk them missing stuff anyway. Curious if anyone’s actually had a lender move faster because you gave them less? I’ve never seen it happen.


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Never seen a lender actually speed things up just because you sent less paperwork. If anything, I’ve had them come back asking for stuff I already included, just because it wasn’t in the “right” pile. Honestly, feels like there’s no winning with some of these underwriters. Has anyone tried just sending hard copies instead of digital files? Wondering if that cuts down on the back-and-forth or just adds another headache.


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language_brian5987

Yeah, I hear you. Sending less paperwork never made things faster for me either - if anything, it just led to more emails asking for stuff I’d already sent. Hard copies? Tried that once, but it just slowed everything down and got lost in the shuffle. Digital’s a pain, but at least there’s a paper trail when they claim something’s missing. My advice: over-communicate, label every doc clearly, and expect at least one round of “can you resend?” no matter what.


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Title: Getting a lender to budge on underwater home sales - tips?

Yeah, I’m with you on the paperwork mess. Digital’s not perfect, but at least you can track what you sent and when. Hard copies are just asking for trouble - had a file “lost” in the mail once and it set me back weeks.

A few things I’ve noticed dealing with lenders on underwater properties:

- They’ll always ask for more docs, even if you sent them already. It’s like they’re hoping you’ll give up or miss something.
- Over-communicating helps, but sometimes it feels like shouting into the void. I’ve had situations where I labeled everything, sent cover sheets, and still got the “missing info” email.
- If you can get a direct contact (not just the generic loss mitigation inbox), that speeds things up. Not always possible, but worth pushing for.
- Don’t trust their timelines. If they say 30 days, plan for 60. I’ve had approvals drag out so long buyers walked away.
- One trick: send everything as one PDF with a table of contents up front. Cuts down on “I didn’t see page 7” nonsense.

Honestly, sometimes it feels like lenders are just stalling to avoid taking the loss on their books until they absolutely have to. Not saying every rep is bad, but the system’s set up to be slow and frustrating.

Biggest thing is persistence. If you’re not following up every week (sometimes more), stuff falls through the cracks fast. And yeah...expect to resend at least once no matter how organized you are.

Curious if anyone’s actually had a lender move quickly on an underwater deal? Closest I got was during COVID when they were swamped and just wanted files off their desk...but that was the exception, not the rule.


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jakes91

Had a client last year where we were neck-deep in this exact mess. The lender’s “missing document” routine drove us nuts - at one point, they claimed they never got the hardship letter, even though I had email receipts and a fax confirmation. Ended up resending everything twice, with big bold labels on every page. Still took three months to get a response.

One thing that helped: I started copying their supervisor on every follow-up after week four. Not in an aggressive way, just a quick “looping in X for visibility.” Suddenly, responses sped up. Not lightning fast, but better than before.

I’ve noticed if you can show you’ve got a real buyer lined up (with proof of funds or pre-approval), sometimes that lights a fire under them. They hate the idea of starting over if the deal falls apart.

But yeah, most of the time it’s just slow going. The only time I saw a lender move fast was when their own portfolio was at risk of looking worse for quarterly reporting... then it was like someone flipped a switch. Otherwise, patience and relentless follow-up are about all you can count on.


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spirituality_elizabeth

Quarterly reporting panic mode is real - I've seen it too, and it's like they suddenly remember how to use email. The “missing document” game is my least favorite; I swear some lenders have a black hole for paperwork. I’ve actually started sending things three ways - email, fax, and carrier pigeon (okay, not really, but it feels like it). Copying the supervisor is a solid move. Sometimes I’ll even add a little “just want to make sure nothing gets lost in the shuffle” - keeps it friendly but makes it clear you’re not letting go. Proof of funds does seem to get their attention, though half the time they act surprised that you’ve already lined up a buyer. Patience and coffee... lots of coffee.


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The “missing document” game is my least favorite; I swear some lenders have a black hole for paperwork.

That black hole must be getting full, because I’ve had docs disappear mid-email thread - like, one minute it’s there, next minute it’s gone and they’re asking for it again. I’ve started naming files things like “FINAL_FINAL_REALLY_FINAL.pdf” just to keep track. Proof of funds does help, but sometimes I think they just want to see how many hoops we’ll jump through before giving in. Coffee definitely helps... or maybe something stronger by the end of the week.


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maryt38

That black hole must be getting full, because I’ve had docs disappear mid-email thread - like, one minute it’s there, next minute it’s gone and they’re asking for it again. I’ve started naming files things like “FINAL_FINAL_REALLY_FINAL.pdf” just to keep track.

That “FINAL_FINAL_REALLY_FINAL” file naming is way too real. I swear, lenders could run a circus with all the hoops they set up. I’ve actually started keeping a separate folder just for lender requests, and every time they ask for something again, I just resend the same doc with a new timestamp. Not sure if it helps or if it just makes me feel more organized, but at least I know I’m not losing my mind.

When it comes to underwater home sales, getting a lender to move at all feels like a win. In my experience, persistence is key - sometimes bordering on annoying, honestly. If you’re dealing with a short sale or trying to negotiate because the house is underwater, having all your paperwork in order (and ready to resend at a moment’s notice) really does make things go faster… or at least less slow.

Proof of funds definitely helps but I’ve had lenders who seem more interested in checking boxes than actually moving the process forward. One thing that made a difference for me was looping in my agent on every email so there’s another person keeping track. Sometimes agents have relationships with certain processors and can nudge things along if stuff gets stuck.

I get the frustration though. There were days when I wondered if they were testing my patience on purpose. In the end, being organized and a bit stubborn helped me get through it without losing my mind (or too much money). Coffee is good - budget bourbon is better by Friday.


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surfing790

I’ve noticed the same thing with lenders - sometimes it feels like they’re just going through motions rather than actually working toward a solution. I do think looping in your agent is smart, but have you tried requesting a single point of contact at the lender? It’s not always possible, but when I managed to get one person handling my file, things got noticeably less chaotic. Also, keeping a running log (dates, who said what) actually helped me push back when they claimed something was missing. It’s tedious but sometimes that extra detail gives you leverage. Anyone else track their comms like that, or am I just overdoing it?


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hollyartist843

Yeah, keeping a log is honestly a lifesaver. You’re not overdoing it at all - if anything, I wish more folks did it. Lenders lose stuff or “forget” conversations all the time. Having that paper trail makes it way easier to push back when things get messy.


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