You nailed it about transparency being worth paying for. I’ve been burned before by lenders who seemed great on paper, but once you dig into the details, it’s a different story. One time I thought I was getting a killer rate, only to find out at closing that the “discount points” were way higher than what was discussed. By then, I was too deep in the process to back out without losing earnest money and time. Learned my lesson—now I ask for a full breakdown of every fee, up front, in writing.
I do wonder, though—has anyone here actually had a lender stick to their original terms all the way through? I feel like there’s always some last-minute “adjustment” or surprise fee. Maybe I’m just jaded from too many deals, but it seems like even the reputable ones try to sneak something in at closing.
Also, curious if anyone’s had luck negotiating those prepayment penalties down or getting them waived? I’ve tried a couple times and got nowhere, but maybe it depends on the lender or how much leverage you have. In this market, with rates bouncing around and inventory tight, it feels like lenders hold most of the cards.
Anyway, I agree—sometimes paying a little more for peace of mind is worth it. But man, it’d be nice if the process wasn’t such a minefield.
I do wonder, though—has anyone here actually had a lender stick to their original terms all the way through? I feel like there’s always some last-minute “adjustment” or surprise fee.
Honestly, I’ve only had one lender actually keep everything exactly as quoted, and it was a tiny local credit union. Every big-name place I tried before that pulled the old “oh, by the way, here’s this extra $400 processing fee” move right at closing. It’s like they’re allergic to being upfront. As for prepayment penalties, I’ve never managed to get one waived either—felt like trying to haggle with a brick wall. At this point, I just assume there’ll be some nonsense and budget a little extra for “mystery fees.” Not ideal, but at least it keeps my blood pressure down... sort of.
You nailed it—those “mystery fees” are basically a rite of passage at this point. I’ve refinanced twice in Dallas, and both times the numbers shifted right before closing. First time, it was a “courier fee” that magically appeared out of nowhere. Second time, they tried to sneak in a higher title insurance cost. I pushed back, but honestly, it’s exhausting having to fight for every dollar.
I get what you mean about budgeting extra just in case. It’s not ideal, but it’s the only way to keep your sanity. The only time I didn’t get blindsided was with a smaller lender who actually answered my calls and explained everything up front—felt like a unicorn moment.
Prepayment penalties are the worst, though. I’ve never gotten one waived either, no matter how much I argued. At this point, I just assume there’ll be some curveballs and try not to let it ruin the whole process. Doesn’t make it right, but at least you’re not alone in dealing with this nonsense.
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I get what you’re saying about budgeting extra, but honestly, is that really the best we can expect? I’m just starting this whole process and it bugs me that “surprise fees” are just accepted as normal. Is it really that hard for lenders to be upfront? Maybe I’m being naive, but shouldn’t there be some way to lock in the numbers before closing so they can’t just tack on random stuff at the last minute?
Also, about prepayment penalties—are those actually that common anymore? I keep reading mixed things online. My broker swears they’re rare now unless you’re doing something unconventional, but then I see stories like yours and wonder if I should be worried.
I guess I’m just not ready to accept that getting nickel-and-dimed is inevitable. Has anyone actually managed to avoid these curveballs by being super thorough or is it just wishful thinking?
Yeah, I hear you on the surprise fees—drives me nuts too. In theory, the Loan Estimate and Closing Disclosure are supposed to keep things transparent, but in practice, there’s always some last-minute “processing” or “courier” fee that pops up. I’ve refinanced a few times and even when I pressed for every detail upfront, something unexpected still crept in. As for prepayment penalties, they’re pretty rare these days unless you’re dealing with non-traditional lenders or certain investment properties. Still, always worth double-checking the fine print. It’s not totally wishful thinking to avoid curveballs, but you’ve gotta be borderline obsessive about reading every doc and asking questions... even then, it’s tough to catch everything.
