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Student debt and mortgages: Did you know this weird connection?

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christopherw83
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Title: Student debt and mortgages: Did you know this weird connection?

Yeah, the whole thing feels like a moving target. I ran into this exact mess last year—my lender swore up and down that my actual IDR payment would count for DTI, but when it got to underwriting, they just slapped on the 1% rule anyway. Super frustrating, especially since my payment is literally $60 a month, not hundreds. It’s like they don’t even care what you actually pay.

I’ve heard some people say Fannie Mae guidelines let lenders use your real payment if it shows up on your credit report and isn’t zero, but in practice? Seems hit or miss. Some lenders just don’t want to deal with the paperwork or risk, so they default to the higher number. I guess if you find a lender who’s really on top of the guidelines and willing to advocate for you, it might work out... but honestly, I wouldn’t count on it. The system just isn’t set up for nuance.


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It’s wild how inconsistent this process can be, even when the guidelines are technically clear. Here’s what’s actually going on behind the scenes in most cases:

- Fannie Mae *does* allow lenders to use your actual IDR payment for DTI, as long as it shows up on your credit report and isn’t zero. You’re right about that part.
- The catch is, not all lenders want to do the extra digging. Some underwriters get nervous if the documentation isn’t crystal clear, so they default to the 1% rule just to cover their bases.
- If your payment is $0, then yeah, they usually have to use 1% of the balance. But if it’s $60, and that’s what’s reported, a diligent lender should be able to use it. The problem is, “should” doesn’t always mean “will.”
- Some lenders are just more conservative, especially if they’ve gotten burned by audits or buybacks in the past. It’s frustrating, but it comes down to risk tolerance and how much hassle they’re willing to take on.

I’ve seen clients get different answers from different loan officers at the *same* bank. It honestly depends who you get and how much they know (or care) about student loan nuances.

If you ever run into this again, you can ask directly if they follow Fannie Mae’s current guidelines and if they’ll honor your documented IDR payment. Sometimes just showing them the actual guideline (it’s in their Selling Guide) can help—but only if they’re open to it.

Not a perfect system, but there are lenders out there who’ll go to bat for you. Just takes some shopping around... and maybe a bit of luck with who picks up your file that day.


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maxcosplayer
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Title: Student debt and mortgages: Did you know this weird connection?

Yeah, this tracks with what I went through last year. My IDR payment was $47, but the first lender I talked to insisted on using 1% of my loan balance for DTI anyway—almost quadrupled my supposed monthly payment in their calculations. I had to bounce around until I found a credit union willing to actually look at my paperwork. It felt like a weird lottery, honestly. You’d think there’d be more consistency, but nope... guess it’s just part of the “fun” of homebuying with student loans.


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Yeah, the inconsistency is wild. Here’s what I’ve seen with clients:

- Some lenders use your actual IDR payment for DTI if you can document it (like with a recent statement or your loan servicer’s letter). Others default to 1% of the balance, especially if they can’t verify the payment or if it’s $0.
- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have slightly different guidelines. Fannie usually lets you use the actual payment, but only if it’s not $0. Freddie can be stricter.
- Big banks tend to play it safe and just use 1% across the board, which can really mess up your ratios. Credit unions and smaller lenders are often more flexible, but it’s hit or miss.

It’s frustrating because there’s no single standard—depends on who you talk to and how much paperwork they’re willing to look at. I’ve had buyers get denied by one lender and approved by another a week later with the exact same financials. Just another layer of “fun” in the process...


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Honestly, I get the frustration, but I’ve actually had a different experience with credit unions.

“Credit unions and smaller lenders are often more flexible, but it’s hit or miss.”
Maybe it’s just my area, but my local credit union was way stricter than the big banks when it came to student loans. They wouldn’t even look at my IDR docs—just slapped the 1% on there and called it a day. Meanwhile, a national lender took the time to verify everything and gave me a much better DTI. Guess it really is all over the place...


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