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When Can I Finally Ditch Mortgage Insurance?

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askater90
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When I refinanced a couple years back, my lender didn't even mention the 24-month thing. They just went by the appraisal value and equity percentage. Makes me wonder—is this seasoning rule more of a lender preference than an actual requirement?


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fashion_elizabeth
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From what I've read, the 24-month seasoning thing isn't really a hard-and-fast rule across the board. Seems like it's more of a lender-specific guideline or overlay. When I was researching PMI removal (still working on it myself...), I noticed some lenders strictly mention the two-year seasoning, while others just care about equity and appraisal numbers. Probably worth checking your loan docs or just calling your lender directly to clarify—might save you some hassle.


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leadership_donald
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I've found too. When I asked my lender about it, they said the 24-month thing was more of a guideline than a strict rule. Seems like equity percentage and appraisal value carry more weight overall... definitely worth double-checking directly.


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I've seen lenders say similar things, but honestly, I'd be cautious about relying too heavily on appraisal value alone. Sure, equity percentage matters a lot, but I've had clients who thought they were golden because their appraisal came back higher than expected... only to find out the lender still wanted to see a solid payment history and at least close to that 24-month mark before dropping PMI.

In my experience, lenders often have internal policies that aren't always clear upfront. Even if they say it's just a guideline, sometimes underwriters stick pretty closely to it. I'd recommend getting something in writing from your lender—like an email or official document—so you have proof of exactly what they're looking for. That way you're not caught off guard later on.

Just my two cents based on what I've seen with past clients. Every lender's different though, so your mileage may vary!


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tea558
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Totally agree with your point about lenders having their own internal policies. I've seen this exact scenario play out a few times myself. Clients get excited because their appraisal comes back strong, and they assume they're automatically in the clear for dropping PMI—but then the lender throws in additional requirements, like proof of steady payments or a minimum amount of time passed since origination.

One thing I'd add is that sometimes the lender's servicing team and their underwriting department don't always align perfectly. I've had clients get one answer from customer service reps, only to have underwriting come back with something totally different. It can be incredibly frustrating, especially if you're making financial plans based on one set of expectations.

Another wrinkle I've noticed is that even if your appraisal shows you've hit the 20% equity threshold, some lenders still want to see that you've reduced your loan balance through actual payments rather than just market appreciation. They might have specific rules about seasoning periods or payment histories, and those aren't always clearly communicated upfront. So even if you get an appraisal showing you're well above 20%, don't be shocked if they still drag their feet a bit.

Your suggestion about getting things in writing is spot-on, though. Having a clear email or official letter from the lender outlining exactly what's needed can save a lot of headaches down the road—especially if you ever need to escalate things internally or externally.

Bottom line: PMI removal isn't always straightforward, and it definitely pays to double-check all the fine print and confirm directly with underwriting (if possible). Lenders differ widely in their policies, and sometimes even within the same lending institution, different departments have slightly different interpretations... so clarity upfront is key.


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