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“High DTI means automatic denial”… right?

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maxwalker
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I’ve definitely seen people get spooked by DTI, but you’re right—it’s not always a dealbreaker. Lenders really do look at the whole financial picture. That said, I’d still be careful about relying too much on “creative” approvals. Sometimes those come with higher rates or stricter terms that can bite you later if you’re not prepared. I always tell folks to keep an eye on the details and not just celebrate the approval itself… sometimes the fine print matters more than people realize.


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aaron_trekker
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Had a client a while back who got super excited about a “creative” approval, only to realize later that the rate was way above what she’d expected. She was so focused on getting past the DTI hurdle that she missed the part about an adjustable rate kicking in after just two years. I think you nailed it with this:

sometimes the fine print matters more than people realize.

It’s easy to get caught up in the relief of being approved, especially if you’ve been told “high DTI means automatic denial.” But lenders are all about risk mitigation—if they’re taking a chance, they’ll make sure it’s worth their while. Sometimes that means stricter terms, or even prepayment penalties tucked away in the paperwork.

I always wonder how many people actually read every page of those documents. It’s not exactly thrilling reading, but I’ve seen enough surprises pop up that I’m always a little skeptical when something seems too good to be true...


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- Can’t count how many times I’ve seen people get blindsided by “creative” loan terms.
- I refinanced last year and nearly missed a clause that would’ve doubled my payment after three years—buried on page 38, tiny font.
- Lenders are good at making approvals look easy, but there’s always a catch when your DTI is higher than they’d like.
- I get the excitement, but I’m always reading every line now... even if it takes forever.
- If something feels off or too generous, it probably is.


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High DTI Isn’t Always a Dealbreaker—But It’s Risky

I get why everyone’s hyper-cautious about loan terms, especially after some of the horror stories I’ve heard. But is a high DTI really an automatic denial these days? That hasn’t been my experience, at least not across the board. When I refinanced, my DTI was hovering just above what most guides say is “safe,” and I still got approved—though yeah, the lender definitely tried to sweeten the deal with some weird adjustable-rate stuff buried deep in the paperwork. (And yes, I spent way too many evenings squinting at PDFs.)

What I’ve noticed is that lenders seem more flexible if you’ve got other compensating factors—like a strong credit score, solid assets, or a decent chunk of equity. They’ll sometimes push approvals through with higher DTIs if you check those other boxes. But then they’ll tack on all sorts of “creative” clauses to offset their risk. Prepayment penalties, balloon payments, rate resets... it’s like playing whack-a-mole trying to spot them all.

I do wonder if we’re being a little too black-and-white about DTI though. There are folks who can handle higher payments because their income is stable or growing, but for others, even a “normal” DTI might be stretching things thin. Does anyone else feel like the real issue isn’t just the number itself, but whether your finances could actually weather a surprise? I mean, what’s the point of getting approved if you’re one car breakdown away from missing a payment?

Anyway, I’d argue that approval isn’t always the problem—it’s what comes after. Lenders will approve more than you should probably take on, and it’s up to us to catch the fine print before it bites back. Maybe reading every line isn’t just about trust issues... maybe it’s just survival at this point.


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Honestly, you nailed it—approval isn’t the finish line, it’s just the start of a whole new game. I see folks get so focused on “can I get approved?” that they forget to ask “should I?” Lenders will absolutely stretch the limits if you’ve got compensating factors, but that doesn’t mean it’s in your best interest. The fine print is where the real risk hides. I’ve seen people with solid incomes get tripped up by surprise rate hikes or balloon payments because they missed a tiny clause buried in the docs. You’re right to question whether DTI alone tells the whole story—sometimes it’s more about how you handle curveballs than what your ratio says on paper. Reading every line isn’t paranoia; it’s just smart these days.


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