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CONFUSED ABOUT LOANS THAT DON'T FIT THE BOX

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(@writing_becky)
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I’ve seen people get their hopes up with a shiny CPA P&L, only to have the underwriter toss it aside in favor of tax returns.

That’s the part that always trips folks up. I’ve had clients bring in beautifully organized spreadsheets and profit statements, but if it’s not on the tax return, underwriters just won’t bite. The “box” is definitely real, and honestly, sometimes it feels like it’s shrinking every year. Non-QM is a decent workaround, but yeah, those rates can be a shock if you’re used to prime. I usually tell people to weigh the cost of waiting versus paying more now—sometimes patience pays off.


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Tighter lending standards really do make it feel like you’re jumping through hoops for nothing sometimes. I’ve had deals nearly fall apart because a lender just wouldn’t budge off the tax returns, even when the P&L told a much better story. Non-QM can bridge the gap, but yeah, those rates are tough to swallow if you’re used to conventional. I usually tell folks to look at the bigger picture—sometimes paying a bit more now can open doors, but if you can wait and clean up your tax docs, it might be worth it. It’s a balancing act, for sure.


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CONFUSED ABOUT LOANS THAT DON'T FIT THE BOX

I get where you’re coming from on the tax returns vs. P&L thing. It’s like, you do everything right running your business, keep things lean, and then the bank acts like you’re hiding something just because your tax guy found a few deductions. I’ve been there—had a lender basically tell me my business “looked too efficient” on paper. Wild.

Non-QM loans are tempting when you’re stuck, but man, those rates make me cringe. I know people say “think long-term,” but if you’re already stretching to make the numbers work, that extra 1-2% can be a dealbreaker. I’m not convinced it always pays off unless you’re absolutely sure you’ll refi soon or the property’s going to appreciate fast enough to cover the difference.

Honestly, I’d rather wait and clean up my paperwork if I can. It’s not fun, but paying more just to get in the door feels like throwing money away unless there’s a really compelling reason. Maybe that’s just me being stubborn about not overpaying for debt, but with rates where they are now, every little bit counts.

I get that sometimes you have to move quick if the right property pops up, but I’d rather walk away than get locked into something that’ll cost me way more in the long run. Maybe I’m too cautious, but I’ve seen friends get burned by jumping at non-QM options without really thinking through the math.

Guess it comes down to how much risk you’re willing to take on and how desperate you are for that deal. For me? If it doesn’t pencil out with a conventional loan—or at least something close—I’m out. Just can’t stomach paying premium rates for the privilege of borrowing money when there are other ways to play it smarter... even if it means waiting another year or two.


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Had a client last year in a similar spot—super clean books, but the tax write-offs made their income look almost nonexistent to underwriters. We looked at a couple non-QM options, and yeah, the rates were tough to swallow. Sometimes it’s worth waiting and tightening up the paperwork, even if it means missing out on a deal or two. I’ve seen folks jump too fast and regret it when those higher payments start hitting. There’s no shame in being cautious, especially with the market moving like it is right now.


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Sometimes it’s worth waiting and tightening up the paperwork, even if it means missing out on a deal or two.

That’s been my experience too. It’s tempting to jump on a property when you find something that fits, but those non-QM rates can really eat into your margins. I’ve seen a few folks get creative with their write-offs and then get stuck when it comes time to qualify for traditional financing. It’s a tough balance—maximizing deductions vs. keeping your reported income high enough for lenders.

I’d say being cautious is smart, especially now. The market’s unpredictable, and locking yourself into a high-rate loan just to close a deal can backfire if things shift. Sometimes patience pays off in the long run, even if it means passing on a property you like. I’ve had to walk away from deals before, and while it stings at first, it usually ends up being the right call once the dust settles.


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